The key to Lena Dunham and Taylor Swift ’s timeless friendship? Loyalty. Indeed, the Girls alum explained that although her bond with the Grammy winner— which dates back to a 2012 X, formerly Twitter, exchange —has attracted the attention of acquaintances, she is protective of Taylor “in every single way.” So, don’t ask her for those Eras Tour tickets.

“I will say that she’s everything that you would want her to be,” Lena told the New Yorker in an interview published July 9, noting she would never give away personal details about Taylor. “She’s kind, she’s devoted, she’s introspective, she’s emotional, she’s funny as f--k. I guess my feeling sometimes is, ‘Isn’t she giving us enough, guys?’” And while Lena—who is married to Luis Farber —has been a part of Taylor’s inner circle for over a decade, her love for Taylor and her music goes even further.

“Even since before Taylor and I were friends, I just always had felt such a deep connection to her music—something unique to only me, obviously,” she joked. “I’ve seen every tour she’s ever done." She continued, "I love seeing a woman who’s not yet forty being, like, ‘Yes, I have a body of work.

’ What I find inspiring is her acknowledgment of her own prolific expression.” Lena—who has attended multiple stops of Taylor’s latest tour—emphasized that she’s supported every iteration of Taylor’s musical journey, and even gave insight into which of her album eras sh.