Jerry Seinfeld is somehow still going this week, even though his Pop-Tart movie already came out like a month ago—an eternity, in the world of made-for-Netflix movies. Apparently invigorated by society paying serious attention to the things he has to say for the first time since , Seinfeld to express his feelings on—what else?—the “agreed-upon hierarchy” of post-World War II American society and the appeal of “dominant masculinity.” Seinfeld agreed, in the interview, with Weiss’ assertion that part of the guiding philosophy of the ’60s-set —which contains, among other things, a scene that is literally fan fiction, complete with Jon Hamm and John Slattery reprising their parts—was a return to that age of “style.

” “I miss a dominant masculinity,” Seinfeld said, being careful, admittedly, to note that he doesn’t consider part of the list of “real men” he admires. (Including JFK, Muhammad Ali, Sean Connery, and, apparently, Howard Cosell.) “Yeah, I get the toxic thing,” he said with deliberate dismissiveness.

“But I still like a real man.” Seinfeld has been struggling with “hierarchy” a bit himself lately, most notably when his recent commencement address at Duke University was greeted by people upset with Seinfeld’s support of Israel during the ongoing violence in Gaza. See also his continued assertions that “the audience is everything,” which contrasts with his frequent statements of unhappiness when members of that same aud.