CLEVELAND, Ohio -- In this episode of the , the hosts discuss the as head coach and the search for a new coach. Takeaways: Listen using the player below: You can also listen using your preferred podcast app. Subscription information is below.

Subscribe and listen on or . The video version of the podcast is on as well. Ethan Sands What up Cavs Nation? I’m your host, Ethan Sands, and I’m back with another episode of The Wine and Gold Talk Podcast.

I’m joined by Chris Fedor. You know him, you love him. And we also got Jimmy Watkins back on the pod.

He was with us during the playoff coverage, giving us his insight, and he’s a columnist with cleveland .com. So guys, obviously we gotta get into the nitty gritty.

J .V. Bickerstaff was dismissed as the Cavs head coach earlier this morning.

It is Thursday and we are recording this around 1 p Eastern Standard Time. Chris, original reaction to what is going on and what you feel about this dismissal? Chris Fedor (00:51.586) Yeah guys, I just felt like it was the move that president of basketball operations, Koby Altman and the Cleveland brain trust felt like they needed to make.

This is a really, really important off season. Everybody understands that the Cavs have gone through their rebuild. They have gotten to the play in tournament that they’ve gotten to the playoffs and back to back seasons.

And for them, it’s about trying to take the step, going from a good team to a great team, trying to get to the same level as Boston,.