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Michael Horn and Diane Tavenner welcome back Stacey Childress, Senior Education Advisor at McKinsey & Co., for the second episode of a two-part series on the challenges facing K-12 education and promising strategies for addressing them. In this episode, each of them makes the case for one high-impact reform to address the challenges laid out in the previous episode.

They discuss reforming how schools evaluate and recommend students, unbundling the core education experience, and doing more to instill character in values through education. Listen to the episode below. A full transcript follows.



· Hey, Michael and Stacey. Wow. You got to say hi to both of us.

This is fun. Hi, Diane. Hi, Michael.

The Two-Part Series on K12 Good to be back together with you two. This is part two of a two-part episode the three of us are doing together. The premise for this episode started when we did a two-part episode previously around higher ed, and some of our devoted listeners and folks said that they enjoyed it so much, and they encouraged us to do something similar for K12, which we are doing.

So this is our second episode, and it’s so much fun to be back together with the two of you. Hopefully, our listeners are not regretting that request after listening to the first part, but we’re going to be briefer this time. It’s our resolution.

Yeah, we even wore ourselves out on episode one of this series. So, yes. Just to remind folks, if you haven’t heard it, part one was identifying the .

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